Koomt (gij, ge)

[nyong]

Hi!

Following the explanation Grytolle wonderfully gave (gij: plural stem +t), do you actually hear/say koomt ge?

Gij-forms generally uses a plural stem, which is completely logical, since gij used to be a plural:
kunnen => kun-nen -> kunt

"je was"-->"ge waart"
"je zou"-->"ge zoudt"
"je werd"-->"ge werdt"
"je had"--->"ge hadt"

The obvious conclusion, the forms (almost) always end in -t. Also note that they are all made out of plural stems: (zouden, waren, werden, hadden + t)

Groetjes

[nyong]

I found out that you actually say gij koomt. Same thing with gij moogt.
Groetjes

[nyong]

How about the imperative?

Do you say "Koomt!" in Belgium?

[Grytolle]

I found out that you actually say gij koomt. Same thing with gij moogt.
Groetjes

It's always "gij moogd", "gij mag" or "gij magd" is never heard... a common dialectal form is "gij moo(d)" (moode gij), where the -g- has been syncopated. Many dialects have "eu" instead of "oo"

"gij koomd" would be a new form to me, but I suppose it doesn't seem illogical... I don't know how widespread it is, but Antwerpian has this conjugation in the present tense: ik koom, gij komd, hij komd; wij kome(n), golle komd, zun kome(n)

The imperative is always the same as the gij-form, but the t/d can be omitted... My guess is a combination of standard language influence and the fact that all East-Flemish (and perhaps some West-Flemish?) dialects only pronounce the verb ending when no consonant follows: "gij moog binnen", "gij moogd", "gij moogd altijd binnen"

[heerMat]

In written language - if ever you would actually write the gij-form - "gij koomt" is the right form. In spoken language however, "gij komt" is the norm. This is quite odd indeed, because in the paradigm of a verb like mogen, "gij moogt" is both written and spoken.

As to the imperative, always "Kom!" is used in Flanders. Sometimes you may hear an imperative on -t:

"Koopt u eens een nieuwe broek"
litt.: Buy yourself once a new pair-of-trousers

"Neemt die boeken mee"
litt.: Take those books along.

But don't you worry, the amount of Dutch verbs where sg. has short stems, and pl. long ones in OTT (or OVT) is not that high!

[nyong]

Bedankt guys!

"gij koomd" would be a new form to me, but I suppose it doesn't seem illogical... I don't know how widespread it is, but Antwerpian has this conjugation in the present tense: ik koom, gij komd, hij komd; wij kome(n), golle komd, zun kome(n)

Ik koom? Is it a typo?

[Grytolle]

Bedankt guys!

"gij koomd" would be a new form to me, but I suppose it doesn't seem illogical... I don't know how widespread it is, but Antwerpian has this conjugation in the present tense: ik koom, gij komd, hij komd; wij kome(n), golle komd, zun kome(n)

Ik koom? Is it a typo?

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