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Ik ben geboren in??

Or: Ik ben in * Geboren?

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According to many, the word order is one of the hardest parts of the Dutch language. If you are also struggling with subordinate clauses, inversion and the like, this is the place to be.

Ik ben geboren in??

Postby Shironeko » March 15th, 2010, 11:23 pm

Hello...
While studying I've stumbled on something that left me quite confused...
I learned that in the Dutch word order the "place" goes between the first verb and the second verb.

For example:
"Hij is vrijdag de hele avond op kantoor gebleven"

This sentence can be found in the grammar lessons from this website.

But I found out that when talking about where you were born it is usually written the opposite way:

Ik ben geboren in Nederland
Ik ben geboren in 1975

My intuiton first told me that this should have been written just like in the first example:
"Ik ben in Nederland geboren"

I wonder if this is some type of exception and if there are more of these quite dazzling sentence structures. Could it be that both are correct?
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Re: Ik ben geboren in??

Postby Quetzal » March 16th, 2010, 12:43 am

Both are indeed correct, but "Ik ben geboren in Nederland" is the more normal one. I'd guess it's because "geboren worden" is a verb that only exists in the passive form, and so people feel that the two parts belong together.

Actually, I think with most or all passive constructions, including those of verbs that can be both active and passive, you get that situation of two possible word orders with the one of the two words together being the preferred one. But you have to stop and think for a moment whether a given sentence actually has a passive verb construction, or merely a verb (like "blijven") that uses "zijn" instead of "hebben" in the perfect tenses.
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Re: Ik ben geboren in??

Postby Shironeko » March 24th, 2010, 10:43 pm

Thank you very much!
I guess I'll have to learn through all this by heart. But only practice makes perfect :P
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